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My turn for apologies, Colleen. It seems like the news has been coming almost at breakneck speed lately, and I wonder how much faster I could possibly go. :wacko: lol
I trust you’re specifically asking about Pluto’s 13-minute partile conjunction to the Ascendant, yes? (The new software I’m using, Sirius, is consider the most accurate of all astrological software, so rest assured this is the actual chart.)
Pluto in Scorpio is obviously going to be intense especially in the first house, conjunct the Ascendant, no less. But in square to the Moon, you can add several degrees of intensity to that especially in terms of her emotions. Such a placement can also be intimidating to others no matter how gently the native tries to come across. The native can exude a type of magnetic, mysterious power that simply radiates in all s/he does. To what she may feel is a simultaneous curse and blessing, she needs to be fully conscious of how she comes across to others. She may confuse some with her passion and zest for life, which could have her wondering what she did to get into that position. On the other hand, I suspect she has much grace and the ability to extricate herself from difficult situations if she needs to as well.
This will never be a position where she could do something halfway: She’s either fully into the plan of action, or she’s not getting involved at all. I’m especially intrigued with her degree of Pluto in comparison to her Nodes since the antiscion of the North Node forms a one-minute partile square to the Ascendant and, of course, is therefore forming a 14-minutes partile square to Pluto as well! This would seem to imply to me that she’s found herself living a life that could be considered quite dramatic although it can also explain what she’s doing in Buffalo, New York, a bit far from the beach. :whistle:
She’s also probably quite sensitive to her surroundings all the way to the environment in which she finds herself at any time. of course from where I’m sitting, I have no doubt she can be quite charming too with the conjunction to her Venus.
Take note, btw, the March 9 Solar Eclipse made a partile square to her 8th house Vertex. It doesn’t seem like she’ll have what could be called a dull year but more like one in which many events might feel somewhat destined, fated.
Does that help? Again, my apologies for taking so long to reply.
Hi colleenzb! I_B was in a Yahoogroups forum before 2004, in fact, two of them: Plutonians, which is pretty much fallow now (the groups there didn’t grow much, if you recall), and also in the 8th house group. Mind if I look at her chart? It will help me to answer a bit better. Feel free to send me the data and tell me if I should post the chart along with it or just speak after seeing it but no chart, okay?
And btw, your memory is fine. We met around 1998/1999, I believe. I wandered back into contact with the world after vanishing from the radar for three years. I don’t remember in exactly which group we’d met over there, whether it was in Gina’s that became known as TarotTransits, which of course I owned, or another one. Only that we connected there. So we’ve been friends a long time! 😉
I’m so glad you’re here! And you’re fine here in Scorpio too. :rose: :heart:
lol Expecto, at times, I wonder if you ever sleep. :mail: Seriously, I had the URL and stories in consideration for another article. No worries. It’s fine. I have a few articles in mind, but first…the newsletter! I started this yesterday, and then I got waylaid after debating on the newest newsletter-only article I’d offer in that. So rest assured, I’m delighted you saw it! With that in mind, you probably will enjoy this as well. 😉
Hi Expecto, you’ll want to consider that the scientists including IAU’s Mike Brown who ia now trying to convince us that this discovery–still unseen, mind you, should make up for his having “taken away” Pluto (not from astrology, but if he wants to make that claim, who am I to stop him? lol). Well, here’s the news story as Cal Tech explains it and notes that it has not been visually observed rather only mathematically.
Now, in answer to your questions…
But, I always wonder where do we limit Astrology. Now with the new planet, do Astrologers count its effects too at some point? Would the new planet affect the calculations or is it a matter of analysis?
Astrological interpretation and analysis is always always a process of observation over many years so we can observe the transiting body through historical periods. As I recall Quouar has a 500-year transit. Compare that to the “mere” 248 years it takes Pluto and 165 years for Neptune to travel the zodiac. This new body is said to be much much farther out there.
So the process of understanding how the analysis and interpretation will develop won’t be in our lifetimes to be sure. Still, if there is one, it will be up to us to determine the starting process, if there is one yet. Calculations won’t be affected. It’s a matter of lengthy observations to note the patterns inherent to analysis. Perhaps this would be mundane only. It’s hard to say.
It changes little at this time. As for the role it will play, that will be up to future generations to determine–and that could be a few generations before that process begins. Great questions… What are your views on this?
Rest assured, Expecto,, this astrologer will continue to use Pluto in analyses. Why? Well, just because the International Astronomical Union (IAU) says Pluto’s not a planet doesn’t make it so when we’re talking about astrological analysis.
It’s kind of amusing, I think, to have this divorce between the IAU and astrologers over Pluto as a planet (now that I’m over that initial sting from 2006): It reminds me of the words “What God [or whatever Higher Power in which one believes] joins together, let no man put asunder” because that also implies “can be rejoined.” It also implies that the IAU’s opinions about Pluto will actually count with astrologers–as if we would see the IAU as a Higher Power. Historically, astrologers and astronomers once shared the spotlight of higher thought under a broader umbrella.
And then consider this: In the movie “The Hundred-Foot Journey,” we saw a focus on French cuisine being treated as the standard of all standards, the crème de la crème, as if to imply that no one could consider any other cuisine at the top of the maze of the world’s cuisines. That is, no one could consider–until a young man with layer after layer of gauze-wrapped hands taught Helen Mirin about the exquisite new flavors he could create–and use to entice her tastebuds–from Indian cuisine. This was an eye-opener for her, and it launched his personal road to success, the same personal road many just starting out seek. That doesn’t mean French cuisine is the god of the gourmet kitchen or the gourmand’s palate. IMO I see this as a standard to which French chefs may strive; but that doesn’t mean all chefs need to try to emulate in the same way.
So while the IAU may be perceived as the god of all astronomers, it doesn’t mean all astrologers must bow down to the same rules. On the other hand, we can continue to try to achieve our own measures that may sometimes jar the scientific community and sometimes agree with them. We can recognize that we may be those gourmet chefs of another school.
Mind you, I’m not saying to ignore science. I think we can work perhaps to achieve parallel standards while striving to achieve at least some of the same levels of understanding we see in the field of science–astronomy included–and we can use these as measures through which we can achieve an astrological standard of excellence that might appease astrologers (and maybe even astronomers, or at least the field of science? Okay, so I might be dreaming there! :whistle: ).
I hope you see my point. (I hope, Expecto, others will consider joining in on this conversation which promises to be a marvelous discussion especially if the focus can stay healthy and avoid flames, etc. :yes: )
The first of two Uranus direct articles, both related to this week’s events.
This is really bizarre, Expecto! One minute I was posting in here, and the next, I managed somehow to be back in the Music, Music, Music thread! Uranus is definitely playing tricks on me today! lol Heres my reply:
When Scorpio began on Orkut, you may remember the full title was “Scorpio–created Jan 24, 2004!” and thats really indicative of what happened in the years before you joined in 2010. There had been this one person who kept trying to bully me, insisting that the community was his. I knew it wasn’t because there had been a membership vote at the insistence of the former owner to prove to her that the members really wanted me and not her since I was more present than she had been. He did everything possible to hound me in both the Scorpio and Astrology communities and finally created a community to compete with ours, using the same name until I added those words “created Jan 24, 2004” which he, of course, wouldn’t ever be able to prove since Orkut always had shown the date the community was created.
And that is how the exclamation got there. It really was a statement to say “No! This is the real Scorpio community you’ve been trying to find!” There were many clones off this one but none of them had the episodes of “KSS” (The Kinky, The Sexy and The Sassy) soap opera ours did. Others had the usual Sun sign stuff, but ours had all kinds of things–and no birthday threads–that no others were able to do. (I think I’d have to look at my files now, btw, to see whether the phrase “created Jan 24, 2004” was in parentheses or not. That bit I actually forgot! :unsure:
Thanks for asking! :good: :heart: :rose:December 27, 2015 at 6:10 pm in reply to: Music, Music, Music!, PART 3 continuing ORIGINAL thread begun May 16, 2012 #2459
Whew, Expecto, that’s the steamy version of Christmas–what we’ve had here until this weekend, a total surprise at best. But then Uranus is very much in play this week. :wacko:
[quote=2344]Thanks, Nivi. Glad to see more posts here.
M, I must have joined Scorpio sometime in 2010. Whoa! time flies. Am I that old? Young at heart, young at heart.
Wow, Expecto! I was sure it was before that! lol Then you’re not part of the original 1000 or so. You came after all of the havoc! That explains your next question which I’m getting to now…December 2, 2015 at 2:33 am in reply to: Music, Music, Music!, PART 3 continuing ORIGINAL thread begun May 16, 2012 #2407
Well, I discovered an awesome musician tonight. For those of you in the San Jose, California area, you’ve been blessed with this voice in your neck of the woods. Now you need to help to get the word out because few know about him. :mail: When you hear his voice–and the lyrics he wrote, the music he wrote, the music he’s playing, I think you’ll see what had me so delighted to have found it. :yahoo: I think you’ll like it as much as I do. But why isn’t he famous yet?!?! :scratch:
They’re here, Nive. It will take them a bit to come out of hiding. Sumit, Murali and Pradeep are all here too. (these three have the recognizable names from there.) Hopefully more who want to be seen will show. I don’t know whether you remember Priya. She was a member from there too.
Dennis, interesting that you might relate to the night hours as Scorpinic…I had never thought about that. I find the best writing time at night because most of the people raound me are sleeping. 😀
Expecto, here in the Northeastern region of the US, many get snow. Where I live, however, that depends on the year, I guess: one year we can get pummeled like the rest of the Northeast, and the next, our temps are stunningly warmer: One year, I remember leaving here for Washington, DC in the morning and seeing people on the tennis courts, playing or practicing–in shorts. It was December 8. The Fahrenheit temps were in the 50s (10-15°C) and I got to Washington only to find the city paralyzed, with cars slipping and sliding through the highways we in the north would have considered nothing to write home about. There was maybe a max of 2 inches (5 cm) on the roads! It was a bit of a challenge for me to understand. lol
Nivi, Expecto would remember better than I, but Expecto was a member of the original Scorpio. Whether that was since it began, however, I don’t remember so it’s possible you never met. Expecto, do you remember when you joined?
Nivi! You made it!! Welcome to the revival of Scorpio!! Hopefully the other members will start to come out of the woodwork as they see the communities coming back to life too now. We have a few already posting who you might remember.
I’m so glad you’re here! :rose:
This seems to be a theme this week, Dennis! Amazing how true both are.